सोमवार, 8 सितंबर 2008

स्त्री की पिटाई का अधिकार दिया गया है ...

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स्त्री की पिटाई का अधिकार दिया गया है ...


दैहिक उत्पीड़न के कितने प्रकार हो सकते हैं- यदि यह प्रश्न किसी से किया जाए तो प्रत्येक आयु वर्ग वालों का अलग उत्तर होगा। इतना ही नही, अलग अलग- जीवनानुभव व जीवन स्तर वालों का भी अलग उत्तर होगा. इनमें सर से नख तक मार पीट से लेकर भोजन न देना जैसी क्रूरताएँ ही सम्मिलित नहीं हैं अपितु रोंगटे ख्जदे कर देने वाले सच भी सम्मिलित हैं। स्थिति तो यह है कि सर्वाधिक प्रकार इस उत्पीडन के हो सकते हैं। अभी गत दिनों जैसे एक आया द्वारा ९ माह की बच्ची की पिटाई के घिनौने दृश्य दिखाई दिए उसी कड़ी में जोड़ कर लोनावाला के रेलवे रिजर्व पोलिस के अधिकारी द्वारा किशोरों की जघन्यतम पिटाई के दृश्य भी जग जाहिर हुए, जिसमें वह बच्चों को पूर्णत: नग्न कर के उनके गुप्तांगों पर पेट्रोल डाल कर लाल मिर्च तक छिड़कता साक्षात् देखने को मिला, लाठी डंडों का तो अनंत जोर उसे मिला हुआ था ही।

ऐसे व अनेक विध प्रकार शारीरिक उत्पीड़न के मिल जाएँगे। जबकि यह भी सत्य है कि संसार में किसी भी प्रकार के उत्पीड़न की सर्वथा भरसक भर्त्सना ही की जाती है। इन सभी प्रकारों में यदि कुछ विशेष प्रकार के उत्पीड़न केवल स्त्री के लिए सुरक्षित हों व वे अधिकार सम्मत भी कहे जाएँ - तो उसे क्या कहा जाएगा? इसके सम्बन्ध में अभी गत दिनों अबू धाबी से श्री शिरोमणि जी ने एक चौंकाने वाला लेख लिखा है। उसे मैं ज्यों का त्यों आप सभी के विचारार्थ यहाँ प्रस्तुत कर रही हूँ -----
- कविता वाचक्नवी





Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?

- शिरोमणि

Please look at the links also . they have even important story of woman torture in islaam . christian hindu, jain sikh women who want to marry muslim must know this . along with quick divocre by word of mouth by men.









Yes, Islam allows man to beat-up his wives. Please read below:


We have some 20 Quranic translations in English and 99% of them used the word "beat them". There are at least half a dozen Bengali Translations, and they all used "beat them". For 1400 years there was no complaining of mistranslations or metaphor! When people now have begun to understand (by the courtesy of translations) people like you started to cover-up by bringing all these ludicrous excuses. How and why you think "beat them" could be a metaphor and what basis? How "beat them" could mean "Kiss them"?

If Koran is so difficult to understand then what was the purpose of giving Quran to those illiterate Arabs? Do you think you are the only Islamic pundit who understands Quran, and nobody else does? How it is possible that, when something in Quran is good and dandy—it is correct translation; but when something sounds not so good—it is wrong translation! !! Why this travesty? Give us one justification why we should defend on your self-distorted meaning of Quranic words or verses? Who are you? Are you the "GREAT POPE" of Islam?

Allah clearly asked Muslims to believe Quran's literal meaning and clearly forbade any interpretations of Allah's eternal divine words. Quranic verse: 3:7—clearly prohibited to accept anybody's interpretation of Allah's eternal words. Please read this verse below:

(Quran-3:7)— "He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are clear and decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding. "

Allah says in Quran that, "I made Qur'an very clear, simple and easy and written in Arabic (44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40) so that Muslims (Arabs of course) can understand very easily?" Please listen what Merciful Allah says in Qur'an: " But We have indeed made the Qur'an easy to understand and remember: then is there any that will receive admonition? (54:22); and "We have made it a Qur'an in Arabic, that ye may be able to understand and learn wisdom (43:3)". Allah emphatically declared that He made Quran very easy so that Muslims can understand very easily.

No where in the Quran Allah says that my words must be read with the help of Quranic interpretations and commentaries! Quranic Interpretations and Tafsirs have been invented by some wishful educated Mullahs only to hide Quranic absurdities and contradictions. In fact, Quranic verses are mostly simple to understand and any elementary student can understand very easily. Therefore, claiming that Quran is difficult to understand is ludicrous and lame excuse only to hide Allah's myriads of inanities and flaws.

If you claim that islam gave women rights which is unheard of then please click to this URL address to read them from Quran and hadiths:
http://www.islam- watch.org/ AbulKasem/ WomenInIslam/ women_in_ islam6.htm
If you are so right, then tell me why in the whole world most oppressed women live in the Islamic countries?

Was the Khadija, a female merchant in pre-Islamic Arab an Islamic product? Are you out of your mind? Khadija was an established very rich merchant long before the arrival of Islam. Please read the history first before you do comment!

Your silly arguments (to hide beating wife) are simply rubbish and have no logic at all; hence they are even not fit for any counter comments. If we bring Quranic verses to substantiate our claim, you say, this must be supported by Sunnah. But if we bring Sunnah only, then you will say, it must be supported by Quran! Therefore below I am giving you one more time both from Noble Quran and Sahi Hadiths. Please do not tell me that we have brought these hadiths from the Zionists' tank!

Quran: 4.34
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all). [Approved by Saudi Islamic council and by Saudi King]
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.
SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
Koran-4:34: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allâh orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill­conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great. [Saudi king's approved translation by: Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Formerly Professor of Islamic Faith and Teachings, Islamic University, Al-Madinah Al-Munawwarah and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Formerly Director, University Hospital, Islamic University, Al-Madinah Al-Munawwarah. "The
Noble Qur'an" – Published and freely distributed by His Excellency King Fahd Bin Abdul Aziz (Khademul Haramine Shareefine] .
Prophetic examples (which you desired) which encourages wife beating:

Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."
Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 33:
Narrated Usama bin Zaid:
The Prophet said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women."
Book 11, Number 2142:
Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_ him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.
More of the same:
Women are according to the Qu'ran: can be beaten to make them obedient Q.4:34, Women's witness is only worth half of men's Q.2.282, women can receive only half of the inheritance of men Q.4.11, Women have unequal rights to divorce, Men may have 4 wives at a time and unlimited sex slaves. Even married women slaves who they capture are permitted for their enjoyment by the Islamic God Allah: Q.23:05-06, Q.4:24 "Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess….."Q.33:50 "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee….." Their marriages would be immediately dissolved by the Merciful Allah.


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 33:
Narrated Usama bin Zaid:
The Prophet said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women."
Sahih Muslim:8.3240:
The Prophet said, "A woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil; so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife and have intercourse with her.

Please read the following hadith if you still thought that Islam has a lot of kind words reserved for women and is very merciful to them. In this hadith, Muhammad clearly declares that a woman is actually a devil in the guise of a human (albeit a female) being. There is no confusion on this matter. Is there any contextual issue for this hadith? I would really like to hear from the Islamic apologists who are always looking for contexts as to what they have to say on this hadith. Is the provision of this hadith applicable today or not? Shall we not consider a woman as an extension of the devil? What punishment Allah has reserved for the devil? Does not this hadith say that our mothers, wives, sisters, and daughter are actually devils? Could any one show me any secularist provision more misogynic than the content of this hadith?
A woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil; so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife and have intercourse with her-(Shahih Muslim 8.3240)



Please listen to these three videos (just click to listen):






1. Islamic wife beating by Imam (video)

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=iWGA8i6scYY


2. Manual of wife beating (video)

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Wp3Eam5FX58

3. Source of this uncivilized dictum

Koran-4:34:
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allâh orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.). As to those women on whose part you see ill­conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High, Most Great. (Saudi king's approved translation)


004.034
YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

Note: Original verse in Arabic never tells to beat lightly. This "lightly" in the parenthesis was introduced by the civilized translator out of shame.


4. Islam is Peaceful video (please click this URL and then click to the pic).

http://islamwatcher s.blogspot. com/2007/ 08/islam- is-superior- to-all-religions .html


Circumsission:
Book 41, Number 5251:
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:
A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_ him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.
Women in Islam By Abul Kasem:

http://www.islam- watch.org/ AbulKasem/ WomenInIslam/ women_in_ islam6.htm

Mr. Amin sarker,

Thanks for your comments. It's not worth reading or commenting to this article by Mullah Abdul Halim (younger brother of another dishonest and hypocritical BD's Islamists Shaha A. Hannan) who simply distorts Koran to suit his own intention. His explanation is ludicrous and idiotic. We do not cahnge Koranic words, we take verses from authentic internationally accepted Koranic translations and we only comment on the basis of verses. I have already debated Mr. Halim in the past and he fled from the debate. So, it will be wastage of my time to make any comment to his distortions.

It is not good practice of blaming translations and wishful changing of word meaning to suit your own motive. If you people think all those 20 different famous Islamic scholars were wrong in their translations, then why don't you dump all those millions of translated Koran from the shelves and drawers of the millions of Muslims and from the tens of thousands of world's libraries and burn them all? Let your pundits like Shah A. Halim make a new Koran of own choice!!! Could you do this job Mr. Sarker? I promise, if you people can do this great job, then we will never come to comment about wife beating or anything else.

How do you claim that all these most famous Islamic scholars: Yousuf Ali, Pickthal, Shakir, Sunan-abu daoud, Ibn Ishaq, Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Taqi-ud-Din- Hilali, Mohsin Khan— they all were wrong in their translations?

Why do you think people are so stupid to believe your silly logic, that when something in Koran is negative then it has to be bad translation? Why not entire translation is wrong? Why don't you say that stop reading any translated Koran and read it only in Arabic so that nobody can understand a word? How, you can change these hadiths by your translation bogus blame? Could you correct these Hadiths by your translation techniques?

Here are some sahi hadiths for Wife beating :

Sahi Muslim-4.2127

When sleeping with Aisha Muhammad surreptitiously left his bed and went to the graveyard at Baqi; Aisha spied on him and followed Muhammad; when Muhammad learned Aisha's misdeed he hit her (beat her) on her chest that caused much pain to Aisha…[This hadith is very long, please read yourself by the #)


Volume 1, Book 9, Number 490:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "You have made us (i.e. women) dogs. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."
Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, " O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion? " He said, " Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, " This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, " This is the deficiency in her religion."


Volume 7, Book 62, Number 33:
Narrated Usama bin Zaid:
The Prophet said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women."
Book 11, Number 2142:
Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_ him) said : A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.
More of the same:
Women are according to the Qu'ran: can be beaten to make them obedient Q.4:34, Women's witness is only worth half of men's Q.2.282, women can receive only half of the inheritance of men Q.4.11, Women have unequal rights to divorce, Men may have 4 wives at a time and unlimited sex slaves. Even married women slaves who they capture are permitted for their enjoyment by the Islamic God Allah: Q.23:05-06, Q.4:24 "Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess….." Q.33:50 "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee….." Their marriages would be immediately dissolved by the Merciful Allah.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 33:
Narrated Usama bin Zaid:
The Prophet said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women."
Sahih Muslim:8.3240:
The Prophet said, "A woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil; so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife and have intercourse with her.
Please tell me how can you change all these insults of women from Hadiths? Do you think you can fool the world by your utterly awkward and nonsensical excuse of translation problem? Besides, when you read the Koranic verse-4:34, do you see how insulting the entire verse is for women? Do you think only women could be bad or do wrong? Don't you think men also can do wrong to his wife? Can you bring some Koranic verses and hadiths to punish all bad husbands? Please tell your Islamic pundit Shah A. Halim or Shah Hannan to bring something for men too!

Hope I have made my message clear to you. Thanks.








On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, LATEEF MOHAMMED KHAN wrote:








Question:
Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?


Summary Answer:
Yes, but only if she doesn't do as he asks. The beating must cease if the woman complies with her husband's demands. Beating is also intended to be the last resort, behind verbal abuse and abandonment.
Muhammad, himself, is recorded as physically striking his favorite wife (from her own testimony). It is not known how he treated his less-favored wives.


The Qur'an:
Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."


From the Hadith:

Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Abu Dawud (2141) - "Iyas bin 'Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah's handmaidens, but when 'Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said : Many women have gone round Muhammad's family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you." At first, Muhammad forbade men from beating their wives, but he rescinded this once it was reported that women were becoming emboldened toward their husbands. Beatings are sometimes necessary to keep women in their place.

Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_ him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."

Ishaq 969 - Commands that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.


Additional Notes:

Muslim apologists often squirm over this relatively straightforward Qur'an verse (4:34). Their masterful aerobics of denial inspired us to write an article:

Wife Beating- Good Enough for Muhammad, Good Enough for You

According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:
- She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (ie. "let's herself go")
- She refuses to meet his sexual demands
- She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"
- She neglects her religious duties
Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.

Finally, when Muslim apologists sometimes say that Muhammad commanded that women not be harmed, they are actually basing this on what he said before or during battle, such as in Bukhari (59:447), when Muhammad orders that all the men of Quraiza be killed and the women and children be taken as slaves. (Having your husband murdered and being forced into sexual slavery apparently doesn't qualify as "harm" under the Islamic model).

But, in fact, there are a number of cases in which Muhammad did have women killed in the most brutal fashion. One was Asma bint Marwan, a mother or five, who wrote a poem criticizing the Medinans for accepting Muhammad after he had ordered the murder of an elderly man. In this case, the prophet's assassins literally pulled a sleeping infant from her breast and stabbed her to death.

After taking Mecca in 630, Muhammad also ordered the murder of a slave girl who had merely made up songs mocking him। The Hadith are rife as well with accounts of women planted in the ground on Muhammad's command and pelted to death with stones for sexual immorality.


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